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02-08-2010 09:29 AM
Has any one read ...(on cnet)
Panasonic admits plasma TV black level change but says picture quality still 'excellent'
I need a new plasma TV, but am concerned about panasonic having problems re: black levels. Have any of you with new panasonic plasma's noticed a change over time?
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02-08-2010 12:38 PM - last edited on 02-08-2010 12:41 PM
Elcycad wrote:
Has any one read ...(on cnet)
Panasonic admits plasma TV black level change but says picture quality still 'excellent'
I need a new plasma TV, but am concerned about Panasonic having problems re: black levels. Have any of you with new Panasonic plasma's noticed a change over time?
There is a large thread on avs with evidence documenting this, and its effects on the 11/12G models. Google "Panasonic black level double" for it. Here is an image by user Orta regarding the G10's black level
G10 Contrast Ratio @ ~200 hours: 4906:1--Black level 0.008fL

G10 Contrast Ratio @ ~400 hours: 2348:1--Black Level 0.018fL

I don't think most people would notice it unless measuring black levels or comparing side by side with another Panasonic. Regardless, one of the biggest advantages of a plasma is the black level and if Panasonic can't fix it going forward they are going to quickly loose a large portion of their customers who happen to be the same enthusiasts complaining now.
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02-08-2010 09:48 PM
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02-10-2010 07:36 AM
Panasonic does not plan fix for reported black level increases...as per the new Cnet report.
I will stay away from Panasonic
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02-10-2010 08:04 AM
Your loss then!
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02-10-2010 10:26 AM
Somehow I don't think so. I think it's Panasonic's loss...& I'm not referring to their loss of black levels only!
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02-10-2010 11:28 AM
First off, does the article refer to all Panny plasma? NO and who right now makes one of the best Plasma? Panny does. My panny plasma has been fantastic for 2 years now. No I'm not a panny fanboy either. I just think that it is your loss not wanting to give them a chance, Panny has and will continue to have many satisfied customers.
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02-10-2010 12:29 PM
Willow wrote:
First off, does the article refer to all Panny plasma? NO and who right now makes one of the best Plasma? Panny does. My panny plasma has been fantastic for 2 years now. No I'm not a panny fanboy either. I just think that it is your loss not wanting to give them a chance, Panny has and will continue to have many satisfied customers.
it has been confirmed to be all 11/12 generation models.
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02-10-2010 08:00 PM
"Since the TVs work as designed, there's nothing to fix."
That answer comes from Bob Perry, Senior VP of Panasonic Consumer Electronics Company, in reply to a follow-up question CNET asked in response to the company's February 3 statement addressing reports about the company's plasma TVs losing their deep black levels over time.
I dont believe this ...its like Toyota Saying we wont fix ur Brake problems....
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02-10-2010 08:25 PM
I have the 46PZ80 and haven't noticed any black level decreases.
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